10/20 [message from the pulpit at st. Barbara, santa ana, ca, not verbatim] re st paul of cross. Early conversion, he renounced his fathers business. Others followed him he established religious order, the passions, stations of cross,more than art,,,,paul heard message to give all to poor,,ask somebody to sacrifice,pagan sense of loss,,but if no remedy,no substitute,somethings missing,,,,early church. Didn't speak Latin, ,,,God. Doesn't want us to suffer, to be poor, priest. Makes sign of cross on forehead, its not magical, ,,for adults the first question is,do you want the cross in Your Life. 1st preach, then catechesis, not private affair,,Christian Community, crucify your will, cross become sign of salvation, but w jesus on it. Not just cross alone, but with Jesus on it.